Is Organic Meat Less Carcinogenic?


“Is Organic Meat Less Carcinogenic?” This study, on the carcinogenic risks associated with the
intake of various meats, estimated the risk was so great that we may not want to feed beef, pork, or chicken to kids more than like 5 times a month. This was in Europe,
where lamb contamination is a particular problem. In the United States, if there
was any standout it would be chicken and PBDEs, flame retardant chemicals, not only compared to other meats, but other countries. U.S. chickens are like 10-20 times more contaminated than
samples taken from other countries that have been tested, though diet is not the
only source of exposure, as those eating vegetarian
have only about 25% lower levels in their bloodstream than those eating meat, though a large proportion of that may be from chicken. For other chemicals,
diet may play a larger role. Studies of the pollutants
in the breast milk of vegetarians dating back over 30 years have found the average vegetarian levels of some pollutants were
only 1 to 2 per cent as high as the national average. In fact, for the 6 out of 7 pollutants they looked at, there wasn’t even overlap in the range of scores; the highest vegetarian value was lower than the lowest value obtained in the general population. This is presumed to be
because these pollutants concentrate up the food chain; so, by eating lots from all the way down the food chain, plants, those eating vegetarian may have an edge. For example, dioxins: meat, fish, and dairy believed to contribute almost all of the dioxin body exposure. And, indeed, if you look at those eating strictly plant-based diets, they may only have about a third of the levels of dioxins and PCBs, or even less than a fifth circulating throughout their bodies. This study really struck me. India has been facing a major problem of treating its millions of pounds of electronic waste every year. And, these poor workers
at these electronic waste recycling plants can be exposed to high levels of toxic chemicals, ending up with this kind of concentration of PCBs in their bloodstream, twice as high as those living about 250 miles away along the coast. But these were non-vegetarian workers at the waste plant. The PCB levels of the vegetarians working at the same plant was even lower. The problem with these cross-sectional studies is that we can’t single out the diet. Maybe vegetarians have other lifestyle behaviors that protect them. You don’t know until you… put it to the test. Change people’s diets
and see what happens. That’s hard to do with
persistent pollutants like PCBs which may
take literally decades to detoxify from the body, but we can get rid of heavy metals like mercury in a matter of months. And, indeed, within 3 months of the exclusion of meat, poultry, fish, and eggs from their diets, there was a significant drop in the levels of toxic heavy metals in their bodies, including mercury, cadmium, and lead. Up to about a 30% drop within 3 months. What if we just stick to organic meat? Certified organic meat comes from livestock that are fed with organically produced feed that is free of pesticides and animal by-products, by law. Therefore, one would assume that there should be a lower accumulation of chemical residues. However, on a practical level, there were simply no studies on the chemical residue content
in organic meat, until… now. Researchers acquired 76 samples of different kinds of meat, both organic and conventional, and quantified their
levels of contamination with 33 different carcinogenic persistent organic pollutants. After all, the ingestion of food contributes more than 90% to the total current exposure
to these compounds, especially food from animal origin. On the other hand, an increasing number of consumers are choosing organic. In fact, organic food production increased like 50% during the last decade; so, are consumers of organic
meat protected or not? Well, “no sample was completely free of carcinogenic contaminants,” which is to be expected
given how polluted our world is these days, but what was surprising was that
“the differences between organically and conventionally produced meats were minimal.” Furthermore, the current pattern of meat consumption exceeded the maximum limits either way. Strikingly, the consumption of organically produced meat not only doesn’t appear to diminish this carcinogenic risk, but was sometimes found
to be even higher. Bottom line, sadly,
is that the consumption of organic meat does not diminish the carcinogenic potential associated with the intake of these pollutants.

100 Replies to “Is Organic Meat Less Carcinogenic?

  1. The organic and "grass fed" industry is wrought with fraud. All a cow needs to do to be labeled "grass fed" is eat one blade of grass in its lifetime. Also 'organic' from other countries is not organic. Its overpriced conventional with paid off regulators.
    A REAL grass fed beef and REAL raw dairy product diet from known sources is superior to vegetarian.

  2. It doesnt matter because you should be consuming very little meat in your healthy diet anyways so we know this is not an issue for those who do it right. If i were eating meat on the daily and lots of it there would be issues like many Americans who do this.

  3. ""You may think you live on a planet, but really you live on a gigantic farm, one occasionally broken up by cities, forests and the oceans. Some 40% of the world’s land surface is used for the purposes of keeping all 7 billion of us fed — albeit some of us, of course, more than others. And the vast majority of that land — about 30% of the word’s total ice-free surface — is used not to raise grains, fruits and vegetables that are directly fed to human beings, but to support the chickens, pigs and cattle that we eventually eat. Livestock production — which includes meat, milk and eggs — contributes 40% of global agricultural gross domestic product, provides income for more than 1.3 billion people and uses one-third of the world’s fresh water. There may be no other single human activity that has a bigger impact on the planet than the raising of livestock. But as a new study out today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) shows, there is tremendous variation in how we raise livestock around the world — and major differences in what that means for the earth and for us. Researchers from the International Livestock Research Institute in Kenya, the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) in Australia and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) in Austria produced a comprehensive assessment of the livestock industry around the world, in developed nations where factory farming is common and in developing nations where livestock are more likely to graze on grasslands. They dug up some striking statistics that underscore just how much meat production varies from region to region. Each year the livestock sector globally produces 586 million tons of milk, 124 million tons of poultry, 91 million tons of pork, 59 million tons of cattle and buffalo meat, and 11 million tons of meat from sheep and goats. That 285 million tons of meat altogether — or about 36 kg (80 lb.) per person, if it were all divided evenly. It’s not — Americans eat 122 kg (270 lb.) of meat a year on average, while Bangladeshis eat 1.8 kg (4 lb). Of the 95 million tons of beef produced in the world in 2000, the vast majority came from cattle in Latin America, Europe and North America. All of sub-Saharan Africa — a region with nearly three times as many people as the entire U.S. — produced just 3 million tons of beef. 1.3 billion tons of grain are consumed by farm animals each year — and nearly all of it is fed to livestock, mostly pork and poultry, in the developed world and in China and Latin America. All of the livestock in sub-Saharan Africa eat just 50 million tons of grain a year, otherwise subsisting on grasses and on crop residue. The poor feed quality in impoverished regions like sub-Saharan Africa means that a cow there may consume as much as 10 times more feed — mostly grasses — to produce a kilogram of protein than a cow raised in richer regions. That lack of efficiency also means that cattle in countries like Ethiopia and Somalia account for as much as 1,000 kg of carbon for every kg of protein they produce — in the form of methane from manure as well as from the reduced carbon absorption that results when forests are converted to pastureland. That’s 10 times higher than the amount of carbon released per kg of protein in many parts of the U.S. and Europe, where livestock production is much more intensive. About that: in North America or Europe, a cow consumes about 75 kg to 300 kg of dry matter — grass or grain — to produce a kg of protein. In sub-Saharan Africa, a cow might need 500 kg to 2,000 kg of dry matter to produce a kg of protein, because of the poor feed quality in arid countries and because of the high mortality rates in herds of often undernourished and sick animals. The highest total of livestock-related greenhouse-gas emissions comes from the developing world, which accounts for 75% of the global emissions from cattle and other ruminants and 56% of the global emissions from poultry and pigs. The most climate-friendly meats comes from pigs and poultry, which account for only 10% of total livestock greenhouse-gas emissions while contributing more than three times as much meat globally as cattle. Pork and poultry are also more efficient for feed, requiring up to five times less feed to produce a kg of protein than a cow, a sheep or a goat. (MORE: Getting Real About the High Price of Cheap Food) So what does this all mean? While factory farming in the U.S. gets a lot of criticism for its cruelty, the danger it poses to public health through the overuse of antibiotics and the pollution it causes to air and water, it can be remarkably efficient. And given the fact that the planet isn’t getting any bigger while the global population and the global appetite keep growing, efficiency is going to matter when it comes to food production. The upside of inefficient livestock production in the developing world is that there is a lot of room to improve, given the right kind of help — which is exactly what the authors of the PNAS paper are hoping for. “Our data can allow us to see more clearly where we can work with livestock keepers to improve animal diets so they can produce more protein with better feed while simultaneously reducing emissions,” said Petr Havlik, a research scholar at IIASA and a co-author of the study. What we need is “sustainable intensification” — efficiency but pursued in a measured way. That’s not to say it would be advisable simply to export developed-world livestock practices to, say, desperately poor, climatically challenged countries, even if it were possible. The low livestock-feed efficiencies in sub-Saharan Africa is due to the fact that most animals in the region consist on vegetation that is not edible by human beings — a fact that’s fairly important in a region where grain is simply too precious to use for animals. Livestock also serves a different function in the developing world. “Cattle and poultry can be walking banks in the developing world,” says Mario Herrero, an agricultural-systems scientist at CSIRO and a co-author of the paper. “They provide manure to small-holder farmers. There’s a tremendous social role for livestock that can’t be ignored.” Above all else, the study underscores that while meat production will need to change in the future, so will meat consumption. It’s difficult to get a full and proper accounting of the total environmental impact of livestock production. A 2006 report from the Food and Agriculture Organization estimated that livestock were responsible for about 18% of human-caused greenhouse gases — a figure that has been criticized by the meat industry as too high and by some environmentalists as far too low. But what’s clear is that American levels of meat consumption can’t be sustainably adopted by the rest of the world, even if livestock management becomes more efficient globally. “Demand management has to be part of the solution as well,” says Herrero. For the environment — and for our hearts and waistlines too."

  4. Chlorella and cilantro accelerate mercury and lead detox, however one has to know what one is doing. I believe Dr. Axe knows the proper way: https://youtu.be/813D8qhsoWQ

  5. But,.. all you vegans don't like it that cows should be outside and eat grass instead of being in cages and eat corn?

  6. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/

    Result: "Conclusions: United Kingdom–based vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians have similar all-cause mortality. Differences found for specific causes of death merit further investigation."

    Makes no difference.

    What does make a difference is eating healthy. Being vegan says nothing about how healthy your diet is.

    Whole Foods are healthy. That includes meat, but not processed meat, just like processed carbs.

  7. HINT: Meat consumption is not carcinogenic. It is actually optimal in a well balanced diet compared to a fully vegan diet 😉

  8. From a big picture perspective, it wouldnt be moral if meat was harmless – people have to learn that soliciting murder, rape and torture purely for taste pleasure is abhorrent and abysmal.

  9. this is really sad. I'd stick to plant proteins but with leaky gut, they're too hard on the system.

  10. Well, I agree that eating vegetarian and fruit based diet is superior, but I wonder if there is any positive info on meat and fish? I'm sure there's some positive studies on Meat and Fish since so many well-respected scientists and Doctors eat meat and fish. ( Dr. Rhonda Patrick, Bruce Ames, MD, Dr. Wallach, Jason Fung, MD, etc…) to name a few.

  11. This was very well researched and published…and it won't make a damn difference with meat eaters. They don't care about facts

  12. No one needs to listen to this bias crap to know which ones healthier. Their is a reason natural grass fed cows don't need antibiotics and all that other bullshit, they don't have the health problems the cows eating all the grain and soy crap they shouldn't be eating do. You can actually tell the difference by looking at the meat. Grass fed beef doesn't have the "100 day grain fed marble score".

  13. Can you please make a video on JUST Clean Meat? It's an alternative to conventional meat production in that it takes a couple cells from a chicken's feather, then grows meat from that in the lab. Here's a link to a video where they talk about their company and the Clean Meat product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGnMWBQMBE

  14. Pesticide residue found on nearly half of organic produce. So if you're a vegetarian eating strictly organic, it's hard to know if that produce is 100% pesticide free.

  15. The reason it has been found in organic meat is because of the animals environment. Pbdes are found in most products and they leach into foods that become stored in the animals fat. The reason why vegetarians have lower levels is because most vegetables act as a detoxifying agent. The solution; ketogenic diet does not allow the storage of fat if done correctly since its using fat as its main energy source. The magic is getting rid of the fat that has all that Pbdes stored in there and detox on a continual basis. I wonder why all the vegetarian are skinny fat? It's because they have stored fat and are waiting for the summer to be over. A summer that never ends.

  16. My life has changed since I read your book "How Not To Die" I have made promoting a whole food plant based lifestyle my business platform and have referenced so many people over to nutritionfacts.org and to your book! Thank you for everything what you do is truly spectacular! Also I have been waiting for this research to be done on Organic meat since I became plant based so I was able to explain it better to those who are on the "grassfed train" like because it's grassfed it's okay, will be spreading this video around like crazy and in my work!

  17. Do segments on RAW. Organic and all these buzzwords mean nothing. Test real milk, real meat etc. from a real farm.

  18. I would like to see the same protocols applied to game meet such as wild duck, bison or kangaroo. Great video again thanks Dr.

  19. Dr. Gregor… Everything has a good and bad side, yes, even food. Nature teaches us this repeatedly, however that's the beauty of vegetables. There are benefits to consuming meat and there are health risks associated with it too and that's where vegetables come in to the rescue. I used to believe in you at point but your arguments lack deeper research unfortunately.

  20. My step father had his PhD.. received the Governor General award. He studied grass. Grass is another word for bales, and fed to cattle in feed lots. FACT! Also my Father was witness to a group of men from the USA that approached our pig farmers and asked “is that section of land organic”? When the farmer said “yes but the pigs aren’t on that land”… he took a picture and told him that was good enough evidence to buy the non organic pigs and sell to the manufacturer as “organic” The picture was all they needed. SO MANY LIES!!!!!!

  21. How about you not buy meat that comes in packages but from the forest. It tends to be safer and have generally better nutrition than most farm feed animals. Also my body needs more protein or I'm constantly tired and can't go through out the day and meat is still way more available to me rather than any tiny amounts of protein I get from plants.

  22. What about studies with pasture raised meat and dairy? How about studies with home grown vs organic market produce? A lot of so called organic produce are contaminated during transport and storage. Contamination also occurs at the store where it is sold since many retailers use pesticides to control rodents and insects. It is like the organic pasture raised milk being put in dioxin laced containers; you can have people producing high quality products with good intentions but then inadvertently contaminating them at the same time. I remember I bought a can of organic tomatoes and when I opened it it was lined with BPA laced plastic. Now that would be worse than buying a regular can with no lining in my view. I believe the studies need to explore larger scenarios to get to the truth and to find solutions. Sad that the world is so polluted but there are solutions to every problem. They just have to be found.

  23. There is no doubt meat is anyway cancerogen. Organic or not. Thanks for the Video i share to all my friends – always telling me organic meat would be the better choice. Doubt is selling meat products + cancer on top!!!

  24. The study doesnt differenciate between grainfed and grasfed.. that is like differenciate between a fake superman and the real deal. Our brain grew bc we ate meat. Japan have the healthiest living people on earth, their diet looks like: vegetables, fish, meat (the most fatty ones) and fruit etc. Its not meat which are the problem, Its grainfed meat, and things that accompanties the meat: potato, pasta, rice.. or vitamin/mineral sugar.

  25. Hey Dr.Greger,
    Is there any nutrional differences between consuming oat groats vs steel cut oats? Someone told me that the germ is lost in steel cut and rolled.

  26. Thanks for putting out this video. After that garbage, apologetic, propaganda film with Natalie Portman came out, I get the feeling people will be turning to "local farms" to get their meat, dairy, and eggs. None of it is good for us and ALL of it is horrible for the animals who are used as commodities and machines.

  27. Only 10 Americans die each year (out of 310 million) from commercial food. It's the continual and excessive metabolism of carbs in the presence of fat that causes the 3 major chronic diseases in our modern society.

  28. Does this mean that the food given to organically raised animals is the source of the contamination? What are the levels in wild game?

  29. Look Dr. Greger, i can tell you just this:
    I live in Italy where i know a lot of old man 80-90 years.All of them consume meat daily,red meat and olive oil and wine.All of this things you said that is bad it s partialy true.Studies are one thing,and reality another.I respect you a lot but you cannot make just selective studies,where you show just the studies you like.They are a lot of studies where show benefits from olive oil,even meat and bone broth.You should show even the studies with the chemicals founded in plants.I just wanted to tell you that this people arrive at 90',and they ate organic meat and animal foods for all of their life.For me veganism it s not the perfect diet,because of the lack of certain nutrients like fatty acids(don t tell me that we should eat alga beacuse it s not normal for a human being to go and eat algae from the sea),B12(even if you tell me you tell me that if you eat plants not washed,a lot a vegans take b12 supplement,because they are deficient).Even the okinawa s peple eat pork and fish.I think (my opinion) that the best diet is a one with lot of legumes and fruit and some fish,meat 2-3 times a week with healthy fats like seeds,olive oil,avocados.Cheers!

  30. Organic, tho.

    Yep, decomposing flesh full of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol, which make your arteries look like they're made of yellow candles. (Ever try to pass a liquid through a candle ??😵)
    Then of course there's blood, urine, feces, bile, pus, vomitous~ only in those pesky "acceptable levels", naturally, with cortisol, adrenaline and other "natural" as well as synthetic hormones, antibiotics, antivirals and whatever else their feed was "fortified" with~ never forgetting that good old B12 animals "make", lol.

    Hey, but 100% Organic~ just for YOU!!. YEP, All the disease you can take on board.

  31. My coworker’s family owns organic farm, he has diabetes, his mother passed away from non Hodgkin’s lymphoma, she was still in 60’s. That convinced me that organic animal products are not healthy at all.

  32. Dr Greger , I recently have been trying to keep a vegan diet, I'm convinced a WFPB diet is the way to go, and I'm already collecting fruits of my new lifestyle, but talking about cherry picking, I'd love to hear what do you'd have to say about Dr T Colin Campbell conclusion over dairy being carcinogenic because of casein effect in rats, when he hides his own results showing whey protein combats cancer? After all, milk contains both. Same thing for fish protein and fish oil, which is aka fish. Is that true? Did he, or did he not cherry picked? What's the truth? That's really bugging my mind. Kudos for your superb job in spreading the truth to us, mear mortals.

  33. Hi my name is James need your help please I am having many health problems the Dr I am see tells me I have stage one kidney disease stop eating meat a year ago have high blood pressure and they say I am suffering from sodium intalrance can't wait salt I ask why they say they don't know if I have Harding of the artery they think I can't get a straight answer out of them the only time my blood pressure goes up is when I eat salt even very small amount can you please help me!!!!! What should I do and why is this happening to me I only eat vegetables and fruits. I use to be a type 2 diabetic but no more lost way to much weight to be a diabetic now.

  34. Very informative! You would think that 'organic' meat would not have these toxins, but clearly these environmental pollutants don't discriminate which fields they land in . . . Thanks for posting!!

  35. Thank you Dr. Greger , I learned a lot about my nutrition and plant based diet,
    My everyday smoothie recipe is banana, beet, fresh Amla, frozen blue berry, pinch of clove, lemon .

  36. What about lab grown meat Dr. Greger? You openly support lab grown meat industry which generally use fetal bovine serum (blood extracted from the heart of a cow fetus until it is dead) to grow the meat. To move away from using bovine serum, lab grown meat industry is making artificial serum. We don't know what chemical they might be using to make those artificial serum, can potentially be carcinogens but you support them blindly without any research. At the end of the day it is still going to be meat which is linked to CVD, diabetes and cancer.

  37. We Asians learn something, whatever we eat, don't eat American or western diet and don't eat anything coming from their countries either. Even their animal meat is as toxic as hell.

    Gotta go join the japanese eating some grilled beef right now. the 94 year old owner restaurant just so nice giving us good quality beef.

  38. There is ZERO evidence that eating steak causes cancer. Impossible to prove.

    Eating fast food burgers meals everyday, which are 80% calorically vegan friendly (buns, ketchup, sauce, fries, Coke) is not an indictment of the 4-ounce burger.

  39. All regions on planet earth where they live the longest are both meat and vegetable/fruit eaters. The KEY is a balanced diet. There are NO study where meat/fruits/veggies were taken together and it showed negative impact of health.

  40. This also only demonstrates that feeding cows organic corn product, as opposed to inorganic corn product shows little difference. But cows aren't supposed to eat corn to begin with. They are supposed to eat grass and graze the land. Which also helps to fertilize and aerate the soil so that the soil can continue growing plants and not run deplete of nutrients. I honestly feel like if we fed cows properly, and allowed them to live more naturally, and we also ate around 90% fruits and veggies, there wouldn't be an issue. Is balance the real problem? I feel if I ate less than 1lb of meat and dairy a week, and the meat I did eat was raised ethically and sustainably (and don't say there is no humane way to kill a cow. There is. Don't be delusional. An animal that has little to no concept of death that lives a happy long life then one day is instantly and painlessly killed, that's humane. That's better than most human lives, so fuck that stupid tangeant) then I would be just fine, and so would the cows. They lived a happy, fear free life, and at the end of it were able to give it's sustenance to another life. Something it would have inevitably done after dying in the first place, whether it's humans, vultures, or maggots.

    So my question is this: why can't we have research done studying grass fed cows, in it's natural environment compared to processed meats from corn fed cows? Not only would those cows be healthier and happier, but they wouldn't be subjected to factory farming practices. They would just do what they naturally do. I don't think meat is bad. Nothing is inherently bad. You need water, but drink to much and you are dead. Snake venom will kill almost anyone, but a tiny amount won't. Almost everything we know of can't be considered just 'bad' or 'good' it's moreso about a balance. So what if the problem is not so much that we eat too meat, but that we eat too much meat that was made in such a way that makes unhealthy cows due to them being removed from existing the way nature intended.

    Why is that not even an argument? Why do vegans always shut that down? Why can't we just talk about that like civilized people? If I ate far less meat than the average american, and only meat with as minimal human intervention as possible how would that be 'bad' for me? It seems the argument is more about what amount is proper, and how that animal was raised than meat just being objectively bad regardless of the context. I can't even think of one thing that is objectively bad regardless of the context. So why paint something as always bad, no matter what, no matter how well it's made, how natural it is, or how little you have of it if these things have no even been properly addressed? Seems silly to label something as just purely bad, no matter what. Most people might even consider death itself to be bad, but even a tiny, tiny brush up with death has helped people in incredibly positive ways. How can any one thing be objectively bad regardless of context. Can someone seriously explain this? Because this concept of something we have been eating for hundreds of thousands of years being objectively bad no matter what just doesn't make any real logical sense to me. I seriously just don't understand.

  41. Don't cook meat with toxic charcoal lighter fluid. You can start a fire without it. I use tinder and a magnesium stick for sparks.
    Don't store foods and drinks in plastic.
    Dont use toxic cleaning chemicals in your home.
    Stop buying products that use POPs in their production. Stop investing in these chemical companies. Check your mutual funds and disinvest in them.

  42. BIOACCUMULATION of pollutants (metals, chemicals, bacterial/viral) occurs in animals/humans.
    This is basic Science 101.

    Even if an animal is eating tested 100% organic food (pollutant free)… When animals inhale polluted air (and drink unfiltered water), these pollutants bioaccumulate in their muscle/meat tissue. There are certain pollutants that the body of animals/humans cannot detox/excrete, thus the build up (accumulation) of pollutants in the body which leads to sickness/disease.

    Out of the 2 evils: Pesticide sprayed apple or 1 year old meat?
    The lesser evil is the pesticide sprayed apple.
    The 1 year old meat have bioaccumulated more pollutants that it cannot process/detox/excrete, which then in turn you are going to eat. It is like a piggy bank, a harvesting collection of dangerous pollutants…. hmmm yum yum 🙂

  43. You are THE BEST! Nobody else is so data-driven , erudite and precise in their observations and conclusions as you are. GOD BLESS!!

  44. Man I’m scared the meat and dairy companies going to take a hit out on you stay safe 😂 you are so intelligent too intelligent

  45. And grass fed free range is worse for the environment because you all eat way too much meat and there is NOT enough grassland on earth to grass feed the amount of cows you people eat. So no you aren’t helping carbon footprints. You’re making it worse

  46. Grass fed, organic meat is awesome. I had to quit veganism because I was so sick and lethargic (yes, it was whole-foods plant based) and I feel much better now eating my high quality steaks.

  47. I dont disagree with the information in this video but if you have to choose between grass fed meat and factory farming meat, the grass fed is the better solution cause is more rich in nutrients (minerals and vitamins) and make sure that grass fed animals are not injected with antibiotics to grow faster and bigger. Althought all different meats has pollutants, grass fed meat is the better choice, because of the nutrients.

  48. I hate the shrewed snakes dumping misinformation to mass media. Let freaking truth be told. Not ur biased slanted manipulative pseudoscience. Eat ur meat and you are fine. Thx 🙂

  49. where we can get the complete protein then ? Meat is the best source for protein ..plants just don’t have that much ..and the bioavailability is low as well..you have to eat lots lots bean and nuts to hit the protein requirement ..not to meantion nuts and beans have a lot carbs if u consume too much .

  50. One study is not enough to determine….plus, organic meats are healthier in other ways ( lower estrogen effects, etc.)

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